Posts by Lady Liberty

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I'm new...and heartbroken

by chaz84 in

i'm still up early hours in the morning, because i'.

so upset with what my mum said to me on the phone today.

she told me she got the sack a week ago because her boss didn't agree with my mum being a jehovah's witness and that she lets 'children die' because of the no blood rules.

Lady Liberty

Dear Chaz,

WELCOME to the forum, and thank you for sharing your story with us. (((HUGS))) Hang in there!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

31

My mom just called

by Elsewhere in

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my biological family has been shunning me ever since i daed back in 1998.. my mom opened by saying that she's been thinking about me lately and then we chatted a bit to catch up on news.

i told her about my toilet training my two cats, my recent nose surgery, my running and how things are going well at work.

she told me about how my dad had a medical issue come up in july and how it was treated.. normally my biological family will only contact me when someone dies.

We feel for you. As many of us have loved ones still in. Perhaps you could send her some photos of you and your family and things that have gone on in your life...so it will pull at HER heart strings.....she may not be expecting that.

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

16

Parents smoked pot !

by indahsempurna in

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so my parents said they aren't going to be at my wedding.

i called my uncle to try and talk them into it.

being since he isn't a witness.

Lady Liberty

Dear Indah....,

HOLY COW!! I bet that blew you away!!! It would just about anyone. Instead of going to the elders, which may backfire on you in the end, why not call a spade a spade and ask why they would not be attending your wedding, yet feel free to break the law which in turn is God's law and smoke pot. I would tell them how hypocritical that would be. See how they reason it out. Perhaps they may see attending your wedding is not nearly that big of a sin afterall. Just a thought.

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

15

"Taking the lead in the Congregation"

by MinisterAmos in

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the po talked about "obeying those who take the lead" one too many times last night so i point-blank asked him who was the leader of christianity during biblical times.

i couldn't get him to say "jesus" which is of course the correct answer, so i had to answer for him.

i then added that he would have had assistance from the apostles making them de facto "leaders" as well.

Lady Liberty

LOLOLO That was GREAT!!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

26

New to this Site

by prodigal_son in

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i have been a disfellowshiped joho (what i call jehovah's witnesses now) for 7 years and i still find it hard every single day!

i have just recently reunited with 2 of my 4 sisters who have taken a stand just like myself!

i encourage anyone who is struggling with the decisoin to leave or not to leave, but beleive me and the countless others, it was the best decision of my life!!!

Lady Liberty

Dear Prodigal_son,

WELCOME to the forum!! We are so happy to have you here! Sounds like you have been through the ringer. Hopefully this will be a place of love and support to you.

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

12

Remember "Frosty versus da Dubs" ?

by Nathan Natas in

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i think it was last year, though it might have been the year before that, or the year before that.... one of our great crowd had a holiday display in front of their home.

the display featured a representation of frosty the snowman, a well-known icon of babylonish religion (he was known as zedikiah the snowman back then).

the display was vandalized by some dubs who lived next door to "casa frosty," and the vandalism was witnessed by neighbors.. at the time there was some discussion about how the incident should be handled.. as i recall, the dubs admitted their wrongdoing to the cops.

Lady Liberty

Dear Friends,

Thank you for all your kind words and support!! We love you all!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

13

My JW Experience

by BBOARD in

the stress in the day to day scenario for a jehovah witnesses trying to live their life through the wtbts is the same that cause them to work harder until they either work even harder, fade away, or suffer a mental breakdown.

fear of reproof or divine punishment from jehovah, not love for jesus, grips their day to day activities as they feel they must fulfill their duties of preaching and attending meeting.

many who came into the organization in the 90s; came in due to the friendliness of the people and not the reality of the cult.

Lady Liberty

Dear BBoard,

WELCOME to the forum! You really hit the nail on the head! We really appreciated your post, and your experiences from your hall. Seems like everyones hall has the same types of deressed, disfunctional drowns. We are happy you are here, and can see the organization for what it truely is. We look forward to hearing more from you!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

13

I'm So Happy!! A NEVER Give Up Hope Story

by onesong in

like most everyone here, i had a painful yet liberating exiting of the org.. one of the most difficult parts was saying goodbye to a dear friend.

he couldn't believe that i no longer was a "believer", and during our last conversation 3 years ago, he ran out in tears extremely upset.

i told him that i would always love him and thought there was a good chance that that was the last time i'd ever talk to him.. however last week......he called me!!!!.

Lady Liberty

Dear Onesong,

That is totally AWESOME!!! Thank you for sharing that with us..it gives us hope! I have learned to never say never. I myself was one who my family never thought they would see the day when I would leave. It took me two years, but I finally got brave enough to address my questions. For some its just a matter of time. I think with this whole generation thing changing AGAIN, we may see more experiences like yours. Awesome news! Look forward to maybe meeting your friend here one day!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

12

Remember "Frosty versus da Dubs" ?

by Nathan Natas in

jw
friends

i think it was last year, though it might have been the year before that, or the year before that.... one of our great crowd had a holiday display in front of their home.

the display featured a representation of frosty the snowman, a well-known icon of babylonish religion (he was known as zedikiah the snowman back then).

the display was vandalized by some dubs who lived next door to "casa frosty," and the vandalism was witnessed by neighbors.. at the time there was some discussion about how the incident should be handled.. as i recall, the dubs admitted their wrongdoing to the cops.

Lady Liberty

Hello everyone...

Thanks for remembering "Frosty"! Well, the story goes like this....All three men admitted to the police that they were the ones to egg our home, my sisters car,(which was in our driveway) and vandalized "Frosty". One had the balls to come to our home the next evening and apologise. My husband talked with him in the entry, as I listened from the kitchen. Of course when asked if he would have come forward if he had not gotten caught..he said "probably not". When asked why he did it, he said, "We felt like you abandoned us". My husband said, "Are you even know WHY we left the organization?" He said, "no...why??" So my husband proceeded to share with him for the next two hours all our findings. The guy is mid 30s, admitted he was pretty irregular, and didn't know much about the Bible, or the teachings of the organization. Just went through the motions because that was what he was raised to do. My husband was nice but firm, and really made the guy think. He told us that somehow the elders found out about it and told them they had better call us and apologise. When asked if they had had too much to drink he said "no not at all".

He told us how the whole thing happened. The witness neighbors were having a small New Years Eve party. They guys were playing cards in the kitchen. One of the kids came downstairs to ask for help on their play station. So the dad (my neighbor) went upstairs to help the kids. Meanwhile we come into the conversation, and the builder dub says lets go egg their house! So they all three grabbed some eggs from the refer, and took off outside and down to the front of the house. When they came back in laughing my neighbor and the wives found out what they did..all thought it was pretty funny. I didn't though..as many of you may remember, I was barely awake we had been sick, and I heard popping noises and laughing. I could see them laughing at something at the front of my house. Although I didn't know what they did till morning.

So....

The next day, the second one..a well known local builder in our area, called my husband. He brushed it off and said it was just a joke. (Yea, but I was the one who had to try and clean frozen egg off my concrete and roof, as well as the concrete just sucked that egg into its pores, I could hardly get it out! My husband was still far too sick to take care of it. All in 3 degrees below zero!) He said it was done like a teenage "prank". My husband said, "your not a teenager! You are a 40 year old man!!! He acted as if it was no big deal. This was also someone who was years ago, best friends for sometime ,with my husband.

Then about 5 minutes after that call, the 3rd guy called. Basically said the same thing with the same attitude. He was also in his 40's. My husband asked all three of them if they would have come forward to apologise and admitt their involvement had they not gotten caught. All three either said no, or probably not!

Well, upon those answers, and the fact that the first guy admitted they were coming to apologise because the elders told them to, we decided to prosecute them. I do feel the 30 year old was truely sorry after my husband talked with him and the reasons we left. But still we felt, they knew full well what they were doing. They made the decision to come to our property and do what they did. So they should pay for the crime. If we would have let it go, surely they would have tried to do something later, for they would believe we were to fearful to turn them in. Or maybe it would be another family who leaves the borg. We did not want to set a pressident (spelling) for getting bullied!

So.. it went to court. Two of them had the same prosecuting attourney and were scheduled for court first. We went to court and sat their watching them have to go before the judge. Needless to say they wer quite suprised we showed up to see the whole process through to the end. We really wanted them to have to look us straight in the face. Turns out our rows where we sat were only a couple feet away from each other. The builder had his head down most of the time, he seemed truely embarressed, which he should. The other jerk, was really arrogant and looked us straight in the eyes with a cocky smerk on his face. His wife was their to support him and she was just as arrougant and kept trying to have eye contact with me to intimidate me. Didn't work though... We had our friends their to support us, and we didn't let them get under our skin. We just held our heads high and looked at them with disgust! Of course my witness neighbor was their to show his support for THEM! CREEP!!!

So here these two bozos show up in two piece suits and ties. They look like they are about to go to an assembly! It was funny because the judge had read my lengthy report, in which I told him they were JWs and that we left the Borg, and that we were being religiously persecuted because of leaving. I also explained how hypocritical it was that they attack our home, while ironically celebrating New Years at my neighbors house which according to the dubs is also a "sin"! I also told him how this same dub after being caught went to my dub grandmother and apologised to her, and said he did what he did because he saw "frosty" in our yard, twinkle lights on the two small trees on either side of our front door, and saw a wreath on the front door. He figured we must be celebrating Christmas. So with all that information, the judge asks one of the guys.."So.. you were at a New Years Eve party egh?" It was obvious he was trying to make the dub look like a hypocrite to all sitting there. Which he did! It was quiet for several seconds, and with his head down he answered, "yes."

They basically got off with little penalty. However, it taught them they cannot treat people who leave this way without reprocussions! One who actually broke frosty had to pay $60.00 to us, and had to do 16 hours of community service. (He was the real cocky one!!) The other had to pay a $100.00 fine (to the court) and has a misdemeanor for the incident. The third guy was sceduled another day for the judge, he was the guy who at least had the cawangers to face us in person, we never went to his day in court. We figured he would probably have a whole courtroom of witnesses to sit with him, expecting us to show up again. So we decided to dissappoint them all and not show up. Besides, out of all three of them I did feel he was sorry in the end.

But just like children who apologise because they got caught, they often still have to pay a price for their actions. And that is how we looked at it. The local paper did article on it, but conviently left out the fact that they were witnesses,( they did hint that they were though) didn't mention their names, and said I was a teacher..which I am not! I was dissappointed the paper wasn't more forth coming and honest. But then someone pointed it out to me that this builder has a huge ad in this same paper every week, and they probably didn't want to cut their throats by naming him as the perpetrator. However, on the newspaper online blogs, someone asked who they were and I told them. This sparked a angry reply from a JW reader.."Are you happy now?!!!!" They said. I ignored them. But FYI, "yes" we were!

As for frosty.. well, zip ties and some rework has made him as good as new. We took the $60.00 we recieved from one of those jerks and bought $60.00 worth of more Christmas lights. If they hated what we had last year...which was nothing really, wait till they see our home this year!!!! We bought more lights in honor of, & especially for them!!!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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My Mum's gone

by shell69 in

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a few months ago i noticed that my mum had put her house up for sale, she doesn't live far from me and i had occasion to drive past her house.. well i've had a funny unsettled feeling all week, and i drove along the back of her house yesterday, and all the curtains were gone, she'd obviously left.

feeling brave i drove round the front, and yes its empty, doesnt look like she's been gone long.

i got out and went in the back garden, and looked through the windows.

Lady Liberty

Dear Shell,

I am so sorry! How devastating!! (((HUGS)))!!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty